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Newsletter 16: July 5, 2008

Tsunami Investing ….

      Why Are Oil Prices Rising?  “The Answer” Comes into Focus

June was a good month for energy stocks and for the EIS portfolio but the broad market tanked.  The impact of high energy prices  on both inflation and consumer discretionary spending is being reflected in stock prices.  Energy pressures present a special risk to economic stability by coming on top of the twin collapses in the credit and real estate markets.

So far Mr. Market seems able to distinguish between the very healthy energy sector and the tenuous economy.  I fear that at some point we’ll get a sustained - 1930’s style - bear market in all stocks which will take down the energy stocks along with everything else.  In fact we’ve seen a few days like that already, generally followed by big pops in energy stocks later. 

That fear is why I have a commodity strategy included in the EIS portfolio.  It is insurance against the collapse of energy stocks as part of a general market collapse.  I implement it with options on long dated crude and natural gas futures contracts. If you do not use a futures account and depend only on stocks but want to be invested in physical oil or gas, you can use an ETF like USO or OIL for oil or UNG for gas.

Despite the S&P’s 8.8% drop in June, stocks in the EIS portfolio were up 4.2% for the month which beat the broad oil ETF, IYE, but was slightly under the oil service sector’s sterling 5% gain as represented by OIH.  My shipping stocks held the portfolio back.  Apparently the stock market thinks the China boom is peaking.  I doubt that.

My commodities strategy was up only slightly in June despite large gains in the commodity prices due to heavy-handed meddling by yours truly.  Total EIS performance including the commodity strategy was up 4.4% for the month of June and the year-to-date gain of 32.9% has to be considered attractive given the 12.5% S & P loss since 1/1/08.  I guess outperformance by 45.4% for the first half of the year should make my stockholders happy.  I’ll go ask my wife.

What’s the Lesson Here?

June’s lesson, I think, is the value of Tsunami  Investing so I’m going to spend a little time reviewing it.  

Oil and gas are a perfect investment Tsunami.  Oil scarcity is increasing and will be with us for at least another ten years.  Natural gas will also soon become scarce. (It’s price has actually risen faster than oil so far this year.)   So the short version of my advice to myself is don’t try to be clever.  Keep the investment posture simple in terms of both stocks and commodities.    Don’t try to trade it.  Be there when oil becomes truly scarce after 2010.

A  Review of Tsunami Investing

If a major trend - an economic Tsunami - is unfolding why not be invested in the companies that will be lifted by it?  In fact one might dare ask why be invested anywhere else if you can stand the volatility associated with a concentrated portfolio.  Why not let the vast bulk of investors who are pushed by a trained army of brokers, advisors, and lawyers to be “diversified” buy all those stocks that together by definition yield an average return?

Is Tsunami Investing Really That Easy?

Well, no.   In addition to buying Tsunami stocks you have to do one other thing.  You must hold on.  Don’t sell when you think the stocks have become temporarily overpriced.  You could be wrong about the timing.  And even if you are right, the payback in trading turns out to be small compared with a buy-and-hold strategy. 

There are a few other Tsunami rules also:

    1. It must be a real Tsunami not just a macro-trend.

    2. You must identify the Tsunami early enough in its life-cycle to benefit from it.

    3. You must pick stocks that are central to the Tsunami, not peripheral.

Tsunamis vs. Long Term Trends

Long term trends are what create growth stocks and there are a lot of growth stock managers.  It is a fine strategy.  You pick a trend like the aging population or the growth of China or biotechnology or the internet.  Then choose some companies that are benefiting from whatever trend you’ve identified.

That is not Tsunami investing.   The difference between a long term trend and a Tsunami is that the Tsunami is (as the name implies) very concentrated and very powerful.  It will be over within one or, at most, two decades.  It is easy to identify exactly which companies are part of it and all of those companies will be successful so long as the Tsunami is gaining momentum.

Long term trends, on the other hand, are identifiable but not as strong.  They contain many more companies, most of them are only indirectly affected, and some of them will not be winners.  A successful growth stock manager must know his companies very well to be sure that he picks a Dell and not a Gateway, for example.   You want a Genentech or Biogen, not an EntreMed.

When I was building a cable TV business in the ’70’s and ’80’s the right answer to any cable property acquisition opportunity was “yes”.   It did not pay to be clever.  It did not matter which company you bought.  And if you were an equity investor in the stock market, it also did not matter which cable company’s stock you bought.  The only thing you had to do was just buy it!     Oh, and hold on to it too.  The same thing held true for cellular companies in the ’90’s and also for real estate investment trusts in the ’90’s and the first part of this decade.

The same thing is pretty much true for today’s energy Tsunami.  Companies that are central to the long term production of oil and gas will all win.  It does not matter if you choose Encana or Devon or XTO.  It only matters how well whatever companies you pick are able to secure oil and gas.  That’s why my favorites are the oil sands plays; they have enough oil to last well beyond anyone’s investment horizon, so they are the most central to the energy shortage Tsunami. 

Tsunamis Gain Speed, Then Peak, Then Lose It

Unlike a long term trend that may extend at roughly the same rate of growth for many decades, a Tsunami is like a bell shaped curve.  So timing is important for the Tsunami investor.  If you bought into cable in the late 90’s you were wrong.   If you bought any time before the mid- to late ’80’s you were right, and the earlier the better.

By the same token, you would not have gained much if you waited until the year 2000 to figure out that cell phones were going to be the future of telephony.  It was too late.   You should have seen that coming by, say, 1995, when there was still enough time to make good money.  Better would have been 1992.  I began attending investment seminars on cellular in 1988.

What about the oil and gas Tsunami?  It started in 2004.  Probably it will peak some time in the 2015 - 2025 time frame.  So using the cellular time frame,  now may be roughly the equivalent of 1993 for oil.  There is certainly still time for major gains in oil and gas stocks despite the fact that a lot of the money already has been made.

One thing about the oil Tsunami that is different from other Tsunamis is that it’s power is so enormous that it could have a destructive impact on society’s financial infrastructure similar to a real tsunami’s impact on the place where it lands.  The cresting of the oil Tsunami in the 2010 - 2018 time frame could destroy stocks, including even energy stocks.   That is why a position in the physical commodity seems like a necessary aspect to a strategy concentrating in energy investments. 

Beware of False Profits

You also need to pick stocks central to the Tsunami, not ones that are  a mini-trend or a sub-wave related to the Tsunami but not inherently part of it.  For example, in the energy world today there are a lot of companies making photo-voltaic electricity generators.  Some have been good investments, some not, depending a lot on when you bought the stock and which company.  But PV solar is only indirectly connected to peak oil and the related demise of the age of petroleum; not all PV companies will be successful.  

Tsunami companies tend be acquired as the industry matures.  No matter how “expensive” a cable stock or a cellular stock seemed to be at any given time, none of those companies ended up selling out at any price other than near the highest price they had ever sold for.  Granted, a few of them such Comcast and Time Warner made the mistake of buying late in the game when they should have been selling, just as the Tsunami was peaking.  But the other 98% of the cable companies sold out at their peak price. 

On the other hand, I managed to find some ill-fated investments that were related to cable and cellular but were not right at the center of the Tsunami.  One was a “Chinese cellular” company.  Back in the early 90’s China was a different animal than it is today in terms of its business and financial practices.  That company went under.  Why I felt it necessary to go to China to invest in cellular when there were fine opportunities right here is not clear.

Similarly, there was a television distribution technology like cable in some ways called “MDS”.  Companies that chose to “bypass cable” by using MDS did not end happily, nor did their stockholders.  There were “specialized cable companies” too that served sub-markets like hotels.  Some of them ended badly.

Similarly there are “false profits” in the energy space today.  Most of them are part of the  “alternative energy” universe.   Some are involved in battery technology and other aspects of electric cars (which might become another Tsunami at some point).   Some, like ethanol, have already fallen on their swords. 

The heart of the energy Tsunami is the production of oil and, secondarily, natural gas.  The companies with the largest reserves and the greatest proven ability to increase reserves of oil and gas will grow in value the most.   Close to the heart of the Tsunami are those drilling and service companies that enable the production of oil and natural gas. 

Sometimes I think that the smartest thing an investor can do these days is put everything into Canadian Oil Sands Trust.  With a nearly 8% dividend and more oil reserves than they have even bothered to prove, what could go wrong?  Well, politics for one.  And the possibility that they will get bought out requiring a tax payment and reinvestment program.  Plus something will change if/when the Canadian taxes on trusts are revised.  So some diversification of corporate vehicles is a good idea.   That’s the least a Tsunami investor can do to earn his keep.

On the other hand ,and as a final note on investing in the energy Tsunami, the S.E.C. is currently revising its rules for reporting by oil and gas companies.  The revision will allow them to count oil sands as reserves which could unleash a massive oil sands acquisition program by the oil majors.   Best to own these stocks before Exxon starts writing checks. 

Oh, and India is another rumored buyer of oil sands properties because, like Exxon, they need the oil as discussed below.      

Why Are Oil Prices Rising?  “The Answer” Comes into Focus

Recent information and analysis has clarified the dimensions of the energy Tsunami - what is causing the price to rise and how future prices and supplies will behave.  The distinguishing characteristic of the picture is complexity.  People want simple answers which is why so few of them understand oil.  The oil world is huge and its behavior is multifaceted.  Understanding it takes more than a simple minded idea like “blame the speculators.”

The reality is that the oil market is undergoing a sort of “perfect storm” of many different factors, including:

   1. A group of countries that together produce 13% of the world’s oil are mismanaged or infested with political violence causing them  to produce far less oil than they could if they had a stable government and market economy.  The underproduction could be as much as 5 to even 10 mb/d.

   2.  Russian oil production is declining.   That fact has dire implications for the amount of oil available to future export markets, as discussed in the link.  When you combine declines in Russia with those of Mexico and the North Sea, the extent to which non-OPEC supply could decline  in coming periods becomes significant.

   3  Within OPEC it is uncertain as to whether Iran and Nigeria will increase or decrease their oil exports in future years.  Saudi Arabia, Angola, and Libya are the only OPEC countries likely to increase oil production near term.  Iraq is a potential bright spot starting in a few years at best. 

   4.  Old oil fields produce less oil each year, which is called the decline rate and the amount by which they decline must be made up by production from new  fields. Global decline is estimated to be about 3.5 - 4 mb/d per year, a much greater number than additional oil demand that is estimated to range from 1 - 2 mb/d per year. 

    Decline rates for existing fields have been rising and will probably continue to rise as more extreme methods of recovery are applied to old wells.  The geological rule is that as efforts to increase the output of a field by extraordinary pressurization and drilling efforts becomes greater, the field will decline much more rapidly once the decline starts.  For that reason, there is a a risk that the largest Saudi fields - and others such as Russian fields - may decline more rapidly than currently is projected and such increased declines could start to happen fairly soon. 

    An additional important fact regarding decline is that newer fields tend to be offshore and offshore fields exhibit much higher decline rates than land based fields.  Offshore fields often decline by 8% - 15% per year compared with 5% - 8% for land fields.

    5. Megaproject analysis indicates oil supplies coming from new oil fields will substantially drop after 2010 and will drop even more steeply after 2013.  Some projects scheduled for the next few years could face substantial delays.  If so, some of the projects now projected to start up in 2008 - 20010 will be delayed into the  2011 - 2015 time frame.  That will add to price pressures in the near term.  The megaprojects work is the most tangible evidence of a coming oil supply crisis.

     6.  New oil fields are located in increasingly difficult environments such as deep offshore or difficult fields like  Kashagan.  Costs of oil recovery in these fields are much higher.  Higher costs are partly due to the fact that it takes more energy to recover the oil from these fields, so the Energy Return on Investment is declining

   This means the amount of net oil recovered after oil expended in the process of recovery is lower in these new, more expensive fields.  If you project this trend into the future, at some point there would be no net gain at all from the process of extracting oil from new fields.  At that point, which is well out into the future, there could be no more oil available at all.

    7. In addition to the real historical phenomena discussed above, oil prices reflect to some degree whatever fears there may be that future  political events may reduce oil supplies.  The most important risk today is clearly the possibility that military action will be undertaken to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons.  There are clearly no good choices for the West.   An Iranian bomb would be a very clear and present danger to the security of the developed world but a military attack would clearly bring immediate instability and the risk of even greater future conflicts.

   8. At the same time that all the above factors are influencing oil prices, higher oil prices are moderating demand somewhat, particularly in OECD countries.  But while demand is declining in developed countries it is continuing to increase from developing countries, particularly in oil-exporting countries where fuel prices are subsidized and therefore market mechanisms do not impact consumer oil demand.  The enormous - almost unimaginable - new wealth of oil exporting countries is being used by many of them to develop new industrial bases, which growth adds to their enhanced consumer demand to yield huge increases in their own use of their oil and thus decreases in their ability to export it.

    It is not clear that the reduction in subsidies in developing countries that do not export oil such as China will reduce demand.  In fact it could have the perverse impact of increasing usage in developing countries if higher prices cause an increase in the supply of fuel available to their consumers. 

   9. One way to sum up the outlook for the oil supply available to importing countries is to look at all the countries which produce more than one million barrels per day and which together supply 88.4% of world oil.   An analysis of these countries that accounts for the projected internal use of their own oil production projects that their  exports  (which is not the same thing as production) are likely to decline going forward from today.  If true, that would account for an increasing price of oil.

I’m sorry this discussion was so long.  Unfortunately, there are simply a great many influences on the price of oil.  It is quite wonderful that all this complexity gets boiled down into a  single price that changes minute-to-minute.  Oh well, blame the speculator.

Meanwhile, if all this is just too much, you might enjoy a more general perspective and one better expressed by Peter Lynch that I recently came across.  Happy Independence weekend, and may we some day become independent from oil.

Best wishes,

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  • 1 Robert Essian // Jul 5, 2008 at 10:19 am

    and may God Bless the USA…The whole World for that matter…Thank you Jim

  • 2 Robert Sczech // Jul 5, 2008 at 10:42 am

    Jim, you are right regarding your comments on COS. This is one of the best investments one could have made a few years ago. It is safer than a AAA Treasury bond, it offers an increasing dividend yield (now at 8%) and it offers an appreciation potential which tracks the price of oil. The taxation issue which you mentioned is in my opinion a minor issue. The main issue is: the rising price of oil and the collapsing economy which means that safe investments offering high rates of return will disappear in time.

  • 3 fran // Jul 5, 2008 at 11:18 am

    several questions–

    would mdr/cbi/px fit under your svcs[oih e.g.]umbrella. tough to drill, deliver, process without these types.

    will coal continue to exhibit major sunami effect.

    how would you classify gold/silver commodities status and relevance in your scenarios[affect of oil/gas sunami].

    lastly, how close or remote would you place such nat gas support infrastructures as clne, wpt[tsx].

    i realize you may not wish to speak to individual stocks. but categorical discussion vs your article references would be a worthy didactic.

    thanks for your writings and holiday reference.

    fran

  • 4 KV // Jul 5, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    Tsunami or bubble?

    If you look at bubbles, they really are like Tsunami: they build slowly, most ignore them, and suddenly they go parabolic, with noone in their right mind would try to predict a top, but they collapse just like Tsunami.

    bin Ladin wanted $144 for a barrel of oil in 200o or so; and many have predicted future of oil price, like Jim. $500. THe reality to me is that there is no shortage of oil as there are no lines, no brownouts, and people are paying the price. Except there is undercurrent of people not driving, not buying gas guzzlers, dumping SUV for smaller car, etc.

    Top of a parabola? Who knows? The downhill will be equally hair raising.

    Jim, you give me concerns. On one side, you advocate Peter Lynch, and on the flip side, you are investing for oil to the moon. COS is one the most dirtiest way to get a barrel of oil. Does anybody realize that these oil sands are the future oil deposits? We are cooking these sands to be burned in a few years so that SUVs can continue to be fueled.

    Finally, if we are running out of oil, why should we be building roads for cars and trucks?

  • 5 richard warren // Jul 5, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    I certainly will not challenge one so well-informed…however, I do think it appropriate to ask, with respect Jim’s to Perfect Storm item #4, wherein Jim states: An additional important fact regarding decline is that newer fields tend to be offshore and offshore fields exhibit much higher decline rates than land based fields. Offshore fields often decline by 8% - 15% per year compared with 5% - 8% for land fields.”…Why is that?…does offshore oil know that it is under the sea?

  • 6 Jim Kingsdale // Jul 5, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    Richard - no the oil is blissfully unaware of its location just as you suspected. But the drillers know. And being on a platform with huge daily costs of occupancy, they cannot afford to provide the artificial pressurization techniques to the field below to keep the oil flowing as they can much more easily do on land by using water or gas pressurization. At least, that’s the basic reason as I understand it. Maybe someone from the industry can comment. Jim

  • 7 Simon // Jul 5, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    Hi Jim thanks for this latest letter.

    I was intrigued by your comment regarding the industrial development being done by oil producing nations and how this newly created internal demand reduces their surplus for export.

    Somehow this is a shining exhibit in the list of reasons why western nations are in such a lot of trouble.

    We rely on energy we don’t produce. We’ve exported production to China and India, We can’t increase production without causing the price of our major energy source to rise. The countries that do have an energy surplus are getting around to using it themselves.

    I read quite a few financial and economics blogs in an effort to understand better the situation we are in. To me increasing industrial development in producer nations is the icing on the cake of reasons and outcomes.

    Not that I resent them …far from it. The dimming future we face is merely part of the great tapestry of life and fully our own responsibility.

    I’m trying to begin doing some Tsunami investing myself in an effort to secure a better future for myself and my family.

  • 8 paultaut // Jul 5, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    Don’t accept fate/destiny instead embrace reality.

    In the face of $250 oil suggested by Gazprom for 2009, The demand destruction of $10 gas will bite the economy so hard that Congress will probably do a number on Oil Companies in the USA ala A Windfall profits Tax or God Forbid, a Chavez/Putin type of Nationalization of the Entire Industry.

    Ride the Wave but do so with Extreme Caution with Companies that are entirely US based.

    I prefer the Canadian Royalty Oil Trusts simply because they are not American Oil Companies. Even the Dogs there will benefit from the continuing rise in the price of oil.

    Instead of high income generators, look instead at the Assets each has under control. Who needs offshore oil with millions of unexplored acres sitting in Canada.

    The likelyhood of the US trying to annex Canada is very remote but if oil does hit $500 who knows.

  • 9 Jim // Jul 6, 2008 at 4:42 am

    The widespread buildout of the internet was also a Tsunami. “You must keep holding on” is not the best investment advice. I learned the hard way in 2002 to not fall in love with any investment.

  • 10 Elliot Miller // Jul 6, 2008 at 7:36 am

    I am concerned about three aspects of an investment in Canadian Oil Sands Trust:
    1. The cost of extraction and pre-refining processing are high and going higher. The latest I saw was $65 per barrel, far higher than conventional oil field costs. If the price of crude declines the costs will not but the margins will.
    2. Environmental concerns, including the intensive use of gas and water and the emissions of co2 make oil sands companies a handy political target for raising environmental barriers and hence costs again.
    3. The Alberta royalty scheme, even as revised given the provincial government’s second thought is still burdensome.
    If you are looking for a Canadian trust, i prefer Crescent Point Energy Trust. Its production is minimally (about 14%) in Alberta, it is heavily in the Bakken play (very light–42 degrees API and sweet crude) in Saskatchewan, it is masterfully hedged so its distribution (just raised by 15%) is secure down to probably $70 oil, it is expanding its gas processing plant, it is about 85% oil and the balance gas, and I believe it has the best management of the trusts.

  • 11 KV // Jul 6, 2008 at 8:04 am

    Elliot,

    You are right on mark on oil sands. Unfortunately, Jim is in love with COS. When one invests in CanRoy it is about cashflow and preservation of capital, and appreciation through new finds, acquisition, and unfortunately even increased price in oil. CA is going to tax Canroys as business after 2011, royalty costs are increasing and basically Canadian Govt. does not want foreign - including US - investors for income in their oil.

    Back to oil sands: if you apply Peter Lynch’s method for all the costs for COS, it is really a negative return; only reason it is going on is that there are many other Canadian businesses benefit from transporting the sands before and after, and reclaimation projects after stripping the lands. It is really a big construction company welfare program disguised for oil.

    Jim, I hope you rethink your investments. Take a look at some of the E&P MLPs in the US.

  • 12 KV // Jul 6, 2008 at 9:04 am

    Jim,

    From NYT article:

    In 2007, with oil at $82 and gas nearing $3, Congress finally approved the first big increase in fuel-efficiency standards in 32 years, requiring the fleet average to reach 35 m.p.g. by 2020. That will save one million barrels a day by 2020, but onetime CAFE opponents like Mr. Castle now say they wish that Congress had acted sooner. Since the 1980s, fuel efficiency has flatlined at 24 m.p.g., while vehicle weight has jumped more than 25 percent and horsepower has nearly doubled. In Europe, on the other hand, fuel efficiency currently stands at 44 m.p.g. and is slated to hit 48 m.p.g. by 2012.

  • 13 paultaut // Jul 6, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    The comments about fuel efficiency in Europe VS US are right on and should indicate that Europe will fare far better than we will.

    The Internet was all promise. There were no earnings to support the prices. A Bubble.

    The current Tsunami has oil company earnings based on a major drop in oil prices. This type of valuation does not a Bubble Create. Rather it is a continuing Wall Of Worry. The Complaceny surrounding the Internet/Housing/Financial Bubbles doesn’t exist here.

  • 14 ccrawford // Jul 7, 2008 at 6:30 am

    The Canadians are considering nuclear reactors to provide process heat for oil sands production in the future. This will greatly reduce the CO2 emissions and free up a lot of natural gas for sale. To those who bring up nuclear waste, I answer that waste disposal is a political issue, not an engineering one; when the cost of energy reaches a certain point, suddenly politicians will discover that we can bury the stuff quite safely. All this is to say that long term extraction of oil sands is a good bet.

  • 15 KV // Jul 7, 2008 at 7:45 am

    Ccrawford,

    If you build nuclear reactors, why not generate electricity and run everything? Why waste nearly 80% of energy generated in heating, cooking, and cooling sands?

    Did you see GM is going to layoff thousands - white collars, and may drop all the brands except Chevy and Caddy? Like Toyota and Lexus? Like Honda and Acura? Like Nissan and Infinity? Age of gasoline powered cars is ending - will take 20 years, but the end is eminent. It is not just oil; wasteful infrastructures of roads, parking palaces, and millions of cars going to and fro for no purpose but to perpetual traffic jams. For this you and Jim want to bake sand in cold and play in mud.

  • 16 Mark L. // Jul 7, 2008 at 8:18 am

    All,
    Can anyone point me in the right direction of advantages/disadvantages of investing in ETF funds like OIL or UNG vs. Futures Trading. I appreciate the help.

  • 17 KV // Jul 7, 2008 at 10:48 am

    For ETFs buy low, sell high. For futures don’t risk anything you can not afford to lose.

    All that goes up, comes down, and vice versa. It is oil’s turn for the short term, why? Because there is profit to be taken. Nobody knows long term. May be Jim is right, $500. But I know for sure, at $500 we will not order pizza for delivery, and we will lose nearly half of our service economy. Enjoy!

  • 18 paultaut // Jul 8, 2008 at 5:05 am

    Electricity generation is not the current problem, oil products are. Newly built Nucs will not power your car.

  • 19 KV // Jul 8, 2008 at 7:00 am

    Paultaut,

    Look at the electricity needs in future and again aging infrastructure that will not meet the demand whether coal, gas, oil or nuc fired. A nuc plant takes nearly >10 years to build and put in commission. Using nuc plant for playing in sand is a nonsense, but man always does nonsensical stuff first, before getting wise. It is like getting a girl pregnant than marrying her under the gun. Oil is not going to be any different, except that it is somebody else’s girlfriend we will not leave until there is a big enough bazooka in our face.

    By the way, Jim is talking about all electric car as the future, and nucs will be needed to juice them up.

  • 20 Keith Renick // Jul 8, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    Hi! Do you guys still want to blame speculators, put all of your money in Tar Sands and
    annex Canada? Huh? Just Checking, Good Luck. Keith, Peachtree City, Ga.

  • 21 Jimp // Jul 9, 2008 at 4:54 am

    Jim,
    Do you have a favorite photo- voltaic solar company? Do you like Trina solar TSL?

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